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Gigabyte GA-965P-S3 Review
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Editors Note: The lack of memory timings, and absolutely no mention of memory timings in the BIOS or manual made us decide to dig deeper. After copious googling around, we discovered many other people encountering the same unexplainable issue.

Digging deeper however we finally ran across a post on Anandtech's forums, by one of the forum moderators, indicating the boards memory timings magically reveal themselves in the BIOS "IF" you hit CTRL F1. We went back through Gigabyte's manual, both the printed edition and the downloadable .pdf looking for a mention of this, and found nothing. While we're now relieved to have found memory timing adjustments, we're still left wondering why Gigabyte doesnt reveal these directly in the BIOS without keystroke wizardry. Joe Shmoe enthusiast is gonna take one look at the BIOS and be pissed off, and not sit and experiment in the BIOS with wacky key combo's or google the universe to discover this strangely hidden undocumented setting.

Since we discovered this towards the tail end of this review, we're not revisiting our benchmarks and altering the results at this point. We merely wanted to give Gigabyte a benefit of the doubt and make sure we weren't missing something obvious before we posted the review. Thank god for Anandtech's Forum's here. Regardless of the outcome, Gigabyte needs to rectify this, as this is utterly pointless being so undocumented and obscure.


Scott Opinion: Gigabyte's GA-965P-S3 mainboard is a decent and serviceable basic mainboard. It's price won't break the bank, and might leave you some additional funds to buy other components and get the system you want built at the price you can afford. Still, I have to wonder what in the heck Gigabyte was thinking when they released this board's BIOS. Wacky BIOS settings aside, it's a good serviceable mainboard, that can get you a decent system and a decent overclock with very little money.


Nigel's Opinion: The S3 is a less expensive version of the DS3 and will please the overclocker on a budget. Both motherboards are identical, give or take a few components. The lack of solid state capacitors on the S3  is a disappointment, but then again, it would be the DS3 if it sported them. The BIOS issues we encountered were unwelcome, and Gigabyte needs to do a better job of documenting how to access BIOS features. We did a search for “memory timings” in both the S3 and DS3 manual and came up empty. All in all, it's a great deal for a P965 motherboard as long as you can handle the confusing BIOS and complete lack of documentation. This is something Gigabyte needs to address.

 

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Ctrl F1
Stefan Grijincu (82.77.20.xxx) 2007-03-22 04:40:25

I think that every man that owned a computer once in a lifetime and has more than 18 years and has heard of Gigabyte's motherboards should know about ctrl f1.. Heck I know about it since i first buyed my first Gygabyte motherboard. Ctrl F1 gives you acces to more than the memory timmings switches. Anyway nice article. Sorry about the grammar oups in my text.
Thanks!
Webmaster guy person (68.119.43.xxx) 2007-03-23 18:44:55

Thanks for the comment.

In the case of this particular Gigabyte board, CTRL F1 reveals nothing but the ability to adjust memory timings. It's obviously so common a feature on Gigabyte boards, that Gigabyte themselves neglect mentioning it in their manuals too. Live and learn. ;D
NB temps
waway625 (203.111.235.xxx) 2007-03-28 14:26:24

i was just wondering if you put extra cooling for the NB Heatsink..at 450Mhz, that NB must be scorching hot!

im a moderate..errrr below average OCer and in my case (e6300 and S3) i have set my OC to 2450 (350x7) using stock heatsink and undervolted Vcore (1.25 from 1.325).while CPU temps are Ok, the same cannot be said for the NB as it really is hot to touch (cant stick my finger for 2 seconds) and i was wondering how the NB was on your OC
NB Temps
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masterotaku (Super Administrator) 2007-03-29 06:31:10

The Northbridge was indeed uber-hot. But we did nothing but utilize the stock NB sink. Having said that, compared to other P965 chipset boards that have attained higher overclocks, it's clear to us after many months of using this system as a daily beater that the Northbridge temps are probably what kept us from going even higher.
waway625 (203.111.235.xxx) 2007-03-29 13:14:09

how many months have you been using that mobo? and at what 24/7 OC?it would be interesting for the readers to know what are "one-time" OCs and "long term" OC settings

cheers
ctrl F1
procuroru' (85.120.156.xxx) 2007-04-03 03:13:34

in my manual is specified this option for hidden settings (ctrl F1)
Nice review. btw I got some probl. with Pentium D805, but I'm saving for E6300. I heard prices drop down from april
Bios data for boot
Ray (216.86.214.xxx) 2007-04-29 12:32:12

Your lack of bios descriptions due to "boring us readers" leaves a hole where the bios boot options are not presented....bad..bad ...these days with flash system boot.
We'll keep that in mind.
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masterotaku (Super Administrator) 2007-04-30 12:30:27

We'll take your comment to heart. It's just that (in your particular example) I've not seen a motherboard that wouldn't boot from a flash device in almost 2 years. I guess it's because we just see lots and lots of BIOS screens, and lost track of the fact that we see dozens and dozens more of these than any end user does. Appreciate the criticsm.Scott-Managing Editor
Gigabyte 965P S3
Nikola Ristich (123.3.56.xxx) 2007-05-05 20:08:30

Hi i am wondering do you think it would be better for me for my E6600 system i am building to change my motherboard to something like a Gigabyte 965P DS3 Pro Rev 3.3
Northbridge Heatsink Temperatu
Anthony (211.237.25.xxx) 2007-07-10 02:18:02

Nice review, I have GA-P965-S3 and it overclocks really well. But as some you mentioned NB gets really hot. I wished it was stated in the review how hot it got, maybe adding extra fan to the NB and seeing whether this helps overclocking past 3.15Ghz. I'm sure there are others who are interested why they can overclock past certain FSB speed.
NorthBridge Chipset Cooler
armand81 (189.158.106.xxx) 2007-07-24 16:31:46

Hey i was wondering if you could take out that big and massive heatsink in the north bridge and instead of that use this cooler: http://www.vizo.com.tw/front/product/get_product_detail/46/3/1# to see if there's a better perfomance.
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